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Archivio: Novembre 2002 ml@sikurezza.org Soggetto: Re: VPN e XP Mittente: Enrico Sorge Data: 25 Nov 2002 21:09:52 -0000
At 18.26 22/11/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Per ovviare ai problemi relativi alle incompatibilita' con la NAT di >protocolli utilizzati per effettuare VPN widely used come IPSec ( ESP = proto >50, AH = proto 51 ) e PPTP ( 1724/TCP + GRE = proto 47 ) sono state proposte >alcune soluzioni. > >Nello specifico per IPSec ci sono delle proposte di incapsulare IPSec >all'interno di pacchetti udp, consentendo cosi' al dispositivo che sul >frontend effettua la NAT di gestire tale connessione inserendola nella sua >connection table . > >I riferimenti si trovano qui: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsec-udp-encaps-01.txt >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsec-udp-encaps-justification-00.txt >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-t-ike-01.txt Ciao FaBBio, relativamente ai problemi Nat Vs IPSEC, tempo fa lessi su Cisco IPJ un articolo intitolato "The trouble with NAT" [...] If you cannot avoid translating IPSec-protected traffic midstream, limit use of IPSec to tunnel-mode ESP and design security policies with care. If you simply cannot NAT before IPSec or require transport-mode ESP, there may still be hope. The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is now defining Realm-Specific IP (RSIP), an alternative that may someday prove kinder to IPSec. What Is RSIP? RSIP leases public IP addresses and ports to RSIP hosts located in private addressing realms. Unlike NAT, RSIP does not operate in stealth mode and does not translate addresses on the fly. Instead, RSIP allows hosts to directly participate concurrently in several addressing realms. Although RSIP does require host awareness, it avoids violating the endto- end nature of the Internet. With RSIP, IP payload flows from source to destination without modifications that cripple IPSec AH and many other NAT-sensitive protocols. [...] Per maggiori info: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/ipj_3-4/ipj_3-4_nat.html http://www.isp-planet.com/technology/rsip.html http://www.isp-planet.com/technology/rsip-b.html http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nat-rsip-framework-04.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nat-rsip-ipsec-03.txt Potrebbe essere una valida alternativa? Ciao Enrico ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enrico Sorge - ITsys s.r.l. e.sorge@itsys.it - enrico.sorge@securenetwork.it PGP/GPG Key 1024D/4EC0609B http://www.securenetwork.it/esorge/docs/esorge.asc Key Fingerprint - 3D9A C13E BC29 9B26 DC6C 230B 7721 8E0C 4EC0 609B ________________________________________________________ http://www.sikurezza.org - Italian Security Mailing List
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